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kennal cough

hugo

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my 9 month old harle is just geting over kennal cough,but now my blue has just started to get the same simptoms.Have any of you dane owners who have ever had it give me some tips to make them feel better.Not took him to the vets as the breeder said just to leave it for a while as if they can ride it out it will boost their immunity.cant stand seeing them feeling ill. 😞 😞 😞 😞 😞
 
I know that Benylin is supposed to help with Kennel Cough but dont know about the dosage or which one.

Sharon
 
All mine have had it and unless they are pups,old or infirm or pregnant i wouldn't even bother to take them to the vets again for this.

They all had the adult dose of benylin like Sharon said and within a few days the cough subsided, but be aware that like you already know they infectious to other dogs for round about 4weeks and being an airborne virus its hard to contain.
 
Hi,

I must say it's new to me that kennel cough will sort itself out if left, I always thought it was contageus. My dear old Lab came from Battersea with kenel cough and a course of antibiotics sorted it out.

It's only my opinion, but I would just check with the vet. Never hurts (except in your pocket) to ask.

Debbie 😊
 
debbie in defence to my vets, i had the three dogs of which two were pups and they got the antibiotic shots and something else that escapes me now, but he refused to treat Dolly as he said her immune system could naturally fight it off.
And to be honest i'm glad as if they don't need to be pumped full of crap at the slightest excuse then great.

There is no cure for Kennel cough, AB's are just a preventitive for phenumonia.

But yes you are right to seek vets advice like i did and hopefully they won't use it as an easy excuse to rip you off.
 
Debbie

Kennel Cough is very contagious. Dogs with Kennel Cough should be kept at home.

Sharon
 
Ive given my youngest some venos and he is fime now, got over it himself. I will try the blue with this for a while and see if it clears. If not a trip to the vets. My harles cough cleared within a couple of days.
 
HI THERE
I am afraid that My opinion is quite firm here on this one, I would without hesitation take my dogs to the vet on this one, nearly lost my big Oscar because I didn't work fast enough on him, Sharon will remember this.
Yes, as its an air born infestation of the lungs and enters the repertory tract to do its nasty, its very infectious, I dont think I have seen a dog show yet that didn't get hit with it.
Ok, we all have our own opinion on this, but I personally would have no hesitation in going to the vet with the first show of this illness, if I had bronchial infection, I would not suffer. I would go to the doctor to have it cleared up as soon as possible, just in case it went any further, What a lot of dog owners don't know, if it is not treated, it can cause a swelling of the respiratory tract, which will cause great discomfort to the dog, I personally would not have any of my dogs suffer unnecessary pain or discomfort, when I have the drugs at hand to give them ease, then a period of time in isolation from other dogs.

Sandy
 
hugo said:
my 9 month old harle is just geting over kennal cough,but now my blue has just started to get the same simptoms.Have any of you dane owners who have ever had it give me some tips to make them feel better.Not took him to the vets as the breeder said just to leave it for a while as if they can ride it out it will boost their immunity.cant stand seeing them feeling ill. 😞' 😞' 😞' 😞' 😞

Hugo can I add a word of warning ,without going over what sandy said , which I am in total aggrement with , may I add.
In my business we have to be careful with this kennel cough , as it spreads like wildfire , at the moment it is rife !! usually you will of been near a contagious dog , however we have a client with a boxer who did just like your breeder said you should do , and every year this dog has chest problems , it gets short of breath and coughs , it then goes on antibiotics again .

Do yourself and dog a favour , get to the vet for antibiotics , it will clear within a week , hopefully , if yor dog is coughing and drooling with it , more than usual , chances are it has a secondary infection.
I am not trying to worry you , it just is a horrible illness , if not treated .Thanks Trev 😶
 
Dogsbodies i have to stop you there my danes had KC and they have never since shown any signs of chest problems so i think yours is a one off incident, or rare at the least. It affects dogs in different ways and you can't class individual cases in a group.

I know about sandys case with jelly and i would never say don't go the vets i'm just saying i got advice and one dane wasnt treated and we had no problems.

Its a vicious circle being on AB's and if personally i can avoid that with my dogs i will.
 
Neither of mine have had KC (touch wood), but my vet has told me that a dog which is up to date with it's jabs should not be given a treatment for KC, as the immunity system should suffice.
The only time antibiotics will be given is if there is a risk of pneumonia.
He told me to take mine in if the symptoms persisted for more than 6 or 7 days, and if there was a high temp.
This opinion has been confirmed for me by many things I have read about KC.
I am sure there may be one off freak cases like Sandy's, but i am also convinced that antibiotics are often administered when they are not really needed.
antibiotics have no effect on KC, but only on the secondary infections, which a normally healthy dog up to date with his jabs, should not catch.
Only my opinion, and what I've been advised by my vet 😊

I try and avoid ABs unless they are really necessary. (For both my dogs and my kids 😊 )
 
lucystwo said:
Dogsbodies i have to stop you there my danes had KC and they have never since shown any signs of chest problems so i think yours is a one off incident, or rare at the least. It affects dogs in different ways and you can't class individual cases in a group.

I know about sandys case with jelly and i would never say don't go the vets i'm just saying i got advice and one dane wasnt treated and we had no problems.

Its a vicious circle being on AB's and if personally i can avoid that with my dogs i will.

Yes thanks for stopping me there Lucystwo, but that wasnt a one off case , maybe your situation was a one off , maybe you were lucky!! With your dane , Without sounding coy , working in the kennel business for over "20 yrs you see prolonged problems from dogs , who have had kc, who come back year after year , .I understand ab's, in some dogs create problems , but when you see kc go through an entire kennel , that sticks with you and you remember your course of action ,
I wouldnt leave it and hope it went away !!
But then thats me , if its about personal choice , I merely put my experiences on the post , in order for an informed decision to be made . 😶 Trev x
 
Trev like you say you work in a kennels, you will see this more than your average dog owner, i know all about AB's probably more than most will ever know and they are not the B all and end all and are often as effective as a placebo to the uneducated!!

Many dogs will get KC and never be affected again in my case it was a show dog infected mine, mine do not go to shows etc and are not around a large selection of dogs. They are not repeatedly put in kennels either so are not likely to be subjected to KC again it was a one off incidence and will unlikely happen again.

Like you say it all boils down to experience, lets agree to disagree.
But to come on here and say a dog you know with KC had everlasting problems and i was just lucky not to have that??? nah that doesnt wash with me.
I mean all my 3 dogs haven't got problems? come on no ones that lucky 🙄 .
Its like saying i dont care!!! my dogs are insured its at no loss to me to take them to a vets, i just have experience with AB's and i refuse to pump my dogs full of crap when they don't need it.
 
If buddy or tess gets KC they will be straight to the vets,
i lost a springer of kennal cough and i am not going through that again.
 
Once again, I am glad that we can agree to disagree on all things great and small, for this is what discussion is all about, I would honestly love to talk about this all night, but eyes shutting after trying to keep up with the art work, and work early in the morning, its off to bed till god knows when I will get back on the Forum.
It was at the dog show in Edinburgh that Jelly caught it, she was well up to date with the jabs, at first I thought it was some thing caught in her throat that she might have been playing with, it got so bad that she was being sick all over the place and bringing up all kinds of things, she was suffering with pain and discomfort, I put my head to her chest and could hear wheezing in between the coughs, I took her to the vet, and yes I was lucky if that's what anyone would like to say, poor we darling had got an infection, I knew not to take her right into the vets and kept her in the car for him to examine, some of us are lucky, and some are not, like many on the Forum, I am insured, I used my insurance to take away her discomfort , but I new without a doubt in my mind that on returning home with her, Oscar was going to be next, I bought another batch for him on the ready, sure as I new it, bang it hit him, he is known for his ear nose and throat problems, but like Jelly, right to the chest with it, and even with the medicine, I lay with him for nights and nights, didn't go to work and stayed with him, constantly giving his chest a bump to help him up with the flem, some dogs can just sale through life without a scratch and others get hit like a bus when they get ill, every one I know on this Forum would take their right arm off for their dogs, and take care of them in their own ways with love and affection, this way with me, is my way of affection for my dogs, I would love and take care of my dogs as if they were my children, if I am in the slightest doubt, I will not spare the whip or the rains for my babies, but that's one way out of a thousand to how we each individually love our great beasts, what had scared me was, I knew of a kennel who not only lost all there own dogs in one go over 7 weeks, but the others who were in their care. In my case, I guess this just scared the shit out of me, my mate who is a vet told me it takes more than one or two courses of AB s to nacker the immune system, so what the hell we do what we do,

All the best till I se you again

Sandy


 
danepower 3 said:
Once again, I am glad that we can agree to disagree on all things great and small, for this is what discussion is all about, I would honestly love to talk about this all night, but eyes shutting after trying to keep up with the art work, and work early in the morning, its off to bed till god knows when I will get back on the Forum.
It was at the dog show in Edinburgh that Jelly caught it, she was well up to date with the jabs, at first I thought it was some thing caught in her throat that she might have been playing with, it got so bad that she was being sick all over the place and bringing up all kinds of things, she was suffering with pain and discomfort, I put my head to her chest and could hear wheezing in between the coughs, I took her to the vet, and yes I was lucky if that's what anyone would like to say, poor we darling had got an infection, I knew not to take her right into the vets and kept her in the car for him to examine, some of us are lucky, and some are not, like many on the Forum, I am insured, I used my insurance to take away her discomfort , but I new without a doubt in my mind that on returning home with her, Oscar was going to be next, I bought another batch for him on the ready, sure as I new it, bang it hit him, he is known for his ear nose and throat problems, but like Jelly, right to the chest with it, and even with the medicine, I lay with him for nights and nights, didn't go to work and stayed with him, constantly giving his chest a bump to help him up with the flem, some dogs can just sale through life without a scratch and others get hit like a bus when they get ill, every one I know on this Forum would take their right arm off for their dogs, and take care of them in their own ways with love and affection, this way with me, is my way of affection for my dogs, I would love and take care of my dogs as if they were my children, if I am in the slightest doubt, I will not spare the whip or the rains for my babies, but that's one way out of a thousand to how we each individually love our great beasts, what had scared me was, I knew of a kennel who not only lost all there own dogs in one go over 7 weeks, but the others who were in their care. In my case, I guess this just scared the shit out of me, my mate who is a vet told me it takes more than one or two courses of AB s to nacker the immune system, so what the hell we do what we do,

All the best till I se you again

Sandy

HERE HERE, really well said.
would you take your child to the doctor`s if he/she had a chest infection or leave them to get over it??? i think not. you would want the best for them and for them to be back on there feet as quickly as poss,
 
Hi Lucystwo , Well certainly agree with you there , I do disagree !
On the ab's being used inadverantly, yes I agree with you ! and some vet's prolonging medication for financial gain yes I agree !

However you seem to of had your fill of ab's, and I understand you yourself wouldnt go down that road . That is your perogative. Thanks for the input , would love to know your bad experiences with ab's, maybe sometime .

For the forum then , just to reiterate, Kennel Cough ,-Tracheobronchitis- is one of the most prevalent infectious diseases in dogs , most cases however, may resolve on there own within 1 to 2 wks , Benylin , as a childrens dose may be given as I have done ,also co-codomal in a finger of jam or treat , given in 1/4 of the tablet doses at intervals has worked for me .
In more serious cases where the dog is coughing up white foam ,or wheezing , a discharge at the nostrils, veterinary assistance will be required , where an anti-biotic will be prescribed like, azithromycin, if no treatment is given and the kc does not clear , then further test should be carried out in case of canine distemper or pneumonia.
Under no circumstances should your dog have contact with another canine , shows , club events should be avoided, as this is an airborne bacterial organism. and is infectious. Trev 😶
 
Hi,

In agreement that over use of antibiotics isn't good. I'm lucky to have a vet that feels the same way. However, I have 6 dogs, if 1 got kennel cough, I'd be straight to the vet.

Debbie 😊
 
Taylor almost died of the pneumonia that was caused by Kennel Cough. He got his kc because of some ignorant person who took her highly contageous dog into an off lead area. He nearly died because the vet (not my usual) was ignorant too and affraid of large dogs. She was not interested in listening to me, because she had the white coat on, she was not interested in diagnosing him because she was scared of Taylor, she said its peanuts and it'll go away because she didn't want to treat him. Within 3 days Taylor was flat on his back and I was sobbing over a dying dog. So, no I would never again wait for kc to "sort itself out"!

I think there is a confusion here with what actally gets said be Vets ... IMHO it is the vaccination for kc that you can safe yourself and your dog. There are sooooo many different strands of the virus out there, that it is impossible to vaccinat against all of them, so why bother to vaccinate against 5 variaties when teh 6th is getting to your dog. But not vaccinating and not treating is a sky high difference, one that could cost your dogs life!

By the way, we are still fighting with late impacts to that kc ... Taylor retained an autoimmune insufficiancy from it.

Billy
 
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